Spanish American War
Mr. Zucker argues…
Welcome back, JZ. Its been awhile.
The American story can be summarized as the follows. America is different or unique from the European countries in its treatment of foreign nations and cultures. Unlike Europe, America has the moral mission of democracy that allows it to interfere with other countries for good benefits. Basically, American motives are to spread democracy, free markets, and the virtues of a Christian civilization across the world. European imperialists tended to interfere in other countries for their own economic self-interest and to balance their power in the competition between European nations on the continent. However, America does not have the same baggage. So, she tends to act out of altruism. This doesn’t mean that self-interest is never involved. Rather, our interests tend to coincide with the overall desire to spread democracy and capitalism. So, yes, we benefit from our adventures; but, so do the countries that we influence. The benefits are never exactly equal but are proportional allowing both areas to grow according to their circumstances. Also, yes, we do mess up at times. But, this actually proves our innocence. If we had planned to take over areas for our own self-interest, one would think that our mistakes would be more minimal since our actions would be planned.
Okay, so this story would be…in technical terms…A LIE!!!
America in the late 1800s and the early 1900s demonstrates that all of these principles are basically false. Americans entered into the Spanish American War believing that they were trying to liberate Cubans from Spanish oppression. However, the stories that they were fed were generally exaggerated by the Yellow Press in America for the media’s desire to earn profit. The best example of this was the story on the explosion of the Maine that blamed the Spanish for the mining of the harbor. This story had no real research before it was printed. William Randolph Hearst, the owner of the newspaper, told his reporters to give him information and that he would give them a war. President McKinley was highly influenced by his advisor Mark Hannah who wanted to benefit Wall Street interests. Why would Cuba help in this? Well, they wouldn’t. But, by attacking Cuba, America could attack Spanish interests in the Philippines and this would open up China to American trade. Plus, Cuba was up for grabs by the farming community that wanted to lower tariffs and increase farm trade with the island.
Of course, JZ, you will argue that all this proves is that American interests coincided with democracy. However, at the beginning of the war, the American congress promised under the Teller Amendment that America would respect Cuban sovereignty at the end of the war. Then, at the end of the war, the American congress passed the Platt amendment that allowed the American government to intervene at any time if US interests were under threat. The US then went on to support Cuban dictators all the way up to the Cuban revolution in 1959. In the Philippines, the revolutionary leader, Emilio Aguinaldo, originally called for American help. However, after the US marines defeated the Spanish, the American president McKinley argued that the US needed to take care of the Philippines and remained. Aguinaldo led an insurrection against the US for democratic control of the Philippines. After 5 years, the US had killed well over 300,000 Filipinos.
The US is exactly like their European counterparts. The US has economic and political interests in regions of the world. The US government simply uses different techniques to dominate countries. Instead of direct control, US government will often provide aid to corrupt dictators who follow US interests. US negotiates, with the backing of its military force, to open countries to US based companies. These companies can then take advantage of the local populace through low wages and buying up the best land. In other words, the US is the new HEGEMON!!! (If you don’t know the word look it up.)
JZ responds…
Well, traitor…sorry, Mr. Zucker…let me respond (LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT)
Your analysis of American actions is close to a conspiratorial view of the US government. The US government is not like European kingdoms because the US lacks a centralized power system that makes unified decisions. Rather, the US is a system of checks and balances that does not allow for one faction or interest to dominate over the others. What may appear to be a unified decision or policy is really the accumulation of many different interests. What does tie everyone together is a base line belief in the institutions and virtues of democracy. This means that all factions are guided by the desire to protect checks and balances, civil liberties, separation of powers, economic competition, and a degree of laissez-faire government.
Your examples seem pretty well documented. The problem is that the different groups you show were not guided by the same interests. William Randolph Hearst was corrupted by the desire to gain profits through exaggerated stories. However, this does not mean that his stories determined the president’s decision to go to war or the Congress’ decision to agree to war. After the Maine incident, the president did not go to war but actually waited several months. The main incident that changed everything was the De Lome letter. This letter was intercepted from the Spanish ambassador. The letter basically said that the president of the US was spineless and could easily be negotiated into a false peace. Once the US would leave, the Spanish could dig in with their military and make it impossible to be removed. This forced McKinley’s hand into war because he needed to protect his office and the Cuban people from the lies of the Spanish empire.
The war with the Philippines was definitely a tragedy. But, it was inevitable. If it were not fought between the Filipinos and the Americans, it would have been fought with the Germans or Russians. The Germans and Russians also wanted the Philippines for a launching point into China for trade and military reasons. The Americans offered protection from this possibility. Also, unlike the German or Russian monarchies, the American imperialism spread the institutions and values of democracy over the long run.
True, American economic interests guided the war effort in both Cuba and the Philippines. But as you said in the overall narrative of American history, this provided for growth on both sides of the Pacific. This is the idea of comparative advantage. The Philippines worked hard at what they were good at during this period of history. They were good at farming while the US was moving to an industrial state. So, the Philippines sold farm goods to American and provided a way station for the American goods into China. America benefited from cheap farming goods and Filipinos benefited from the largest and strongest economic market in the world.
The two biggest problems in your argument, Zucker, are first that you assume similar motives of the American government and second that the only factor in decision making is American economic interests. The story is far more complicated. That is why my side of the schizophrenic personality is better with the ladies.
Welcome back, JZ. Its been awhile.
The American story can be summarized as the follows. America is different or unique from the European countries in its treatment of foreign nations and cultures. Unlike Europe, America has the moral mission of democracy that allows it to interfere with other countries for good benefits. Basically, American motives are to spread democracy, free markets, and the virtues of a Christian civilization across the world. European imperialists tended to interfere in other countries for their own economic self-interest and to balance their power in the competition between European nations on the continent. However, America does not have the same baggage. So, she tends to act out of altruism. This doesn’t mean that self-interest is never involved. Rather, our interests tend to coincide with the overall desire to spread democracy and capitalism. So, yes, we benefit from our adventures; but, so do the countries that we influence. The benefits are never exactly equal but are proportional allowing both areas to grow according to their circumstances. Also, yes, we do mess up at times. But, this actually proves our innocence. If we had planned to take over areas for our own self-interest, one would think that our mistakes would be more minimal since our actions would be planned.
Okay, so this story would be…in technical terms…A LIE!!!
America in the late 1800s and the early 1900s demonstrates that all of these principles are basically false. Americans entered into the Spanish American War believing that they were trying to liberate Cubans from Spanish oppression. However, the stories that they were fed were generally exaggerated by the Yellow Press in America for the media’s desire to earn profit. The best example of this was the story on the explosion of the Maine that blamed the Spanish for the mining of the harbor. This story had no real research before it was printed. William Randolph Hearst, the owner of the newspaper, told his reporters to give him information and that he would give them a war. President McKinley was highly influenced by his advisor Mark Hannah who wanted to benefit Wall Street interests. Why would Cuba help in this? Well, they wouldn’t. But, by attacking Cuba, America could attack Spanish interests in the Philippines and this would open up China to American trade. Plus, Cuba was up for grabs by the farming community that wanted to lower tariffs and increase farm trade with the island.
Of course, JZ, you will argue that all this proves is that American interests coincided with democracy. However, at the beginning of the war, the American congress promised under the Teller Amendment that America would respect Cuban sovereignty at the end of the war. Then, at the end of the war, the American congress passed the Platt amendment that allowed the American government to intervene at any time if US interests were under threat. The US then went on to support Cuban dictators all the way up to the Cuban revolution in 1959. In the Philippines, the revolutionary leader, Emilio Aguinaldo, originally called for American help. However, after the US marines defeated the Spanish, the American president McKinley argued that the US needed to take care of the Philippines and remained. Aguinaldo led an insurrection against the US for democratic control of the Philippines. After 5 years, the US had killed well over 300,000 Filipinos.
The US is exactly like their European counterparts. The US has economic and political interests in regions of the world. The US government simply uses different techniques to dominate countries. Instead of direct control, US government will often provide aid to corrupt dictators who follow US interests. US negotiates, with the backing of its military force, to open countries to US based companies. These companies can then take advantage of the local populace through low wages and buying up the best land. In other words, the US is the new HEGEMON!!! (If you don’t know the word look it up.)
JZ responds…
Well, traitor…sorry, Mr. Zucker…let me respond (LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT)
Your analysis of American actions is close to a conspiratorial view of the US government. The US government is not like European kingdoms because the US lacks a centralized power system that makes unified decisions. Rather, the US is a system of checks and balances that does not allow for one faction or interest to dominate over the others. What may appear to be a unified decision or policy is really the accumulation of many different interests. What does tie everyone together is a base line belief in the institutions and virtues of democracy. This means that all factions are guided by the desire to protect checks and balances, civil liberties, separation of powers, economic competition, and a degree of laissez-faire government.
Your examples seem pretty well documented. The problem is that the different groups you show were not guided by the same interests. William Randolph Hearst was corrupted by the desire to gain profits through exaggerated stories. However, this does not mean that his stories determined the president’s decision to go to war or the Congress’ decision to agree to war. After the Maine incident, the president did not go to war but actually waited several months. The main incident that changed everything was the De Lome letter. This letter was intercepted from the Spanish ambassador. The letter basically said that the president of the US was spineless and could easily be negotiated into a false peace. Once the US would leave, the Spanish could dig in with their military and make it impossible to be removed. This forced McKinley’s hand into war because he needed to protect his office and the Cuban people from the lies of the Spanish empire.
The war with the Philippines was definitely a tragedy. But, it was inevitable. If it were not fought between the Filipinos and the Americans, it would have been fought with the Germans or Russians. The Germans and Russians also wanted the Philippines for a launching point into China for trade and military reasons. The Americans offered protection from this possibility. Also, unlike the German or Russian monarchies, the American imperialism spread the institutions and values of democracy over the long run.
True, American economic interests guided the war effort in both Cuba and the Philippines. But as you said in the overall narrative of American history, this provided for growth on both sides of the Pacific. This is the idea of comparative advantage. The Philippines worked hard at what they were good at during this period of history. They were good at farming while the US was moving to an industrial state. So, the Philippines sold farm goods to American and provided a way station for the American goods into China. America benefited from cheap farming goods and Filipinos benefited from the largest and strongest economic market in the world.
The two biggest problems in your argument, Zucker, are first that you assume similar motives of the American government and second that the only factor in decision making is American economic interests. The story is far more complicated. That is why my side of the schizophrenic personality is better with the ladies.
